{"id":178609,"date":"2023-03-19T09:19:35","date_gmt":"2023-03-19T08:19:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tapasmagazine.es\/?p=178609"},"modified":"2023-03-19T12:21:04","modified_gmt":"2023-03-19T11:21:04","slug":"interview-rocio-vidal-tapas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tapasmagazine.es\/en\/interview-rocio-vidal-tapas\/","title":{"rendered":"Tapas Interview | Roc\u00edo Vidal: \u00abIf each piece of artificial meat costs \u20ac5,000, it will never make a real impact on society\u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Click <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tapasmagazine.es\/entrevista-rocio-vidal-tapas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">here<\/a> to read the Spanish version.<\/strong><br>Roc\u00edo Vidal (Benicasim, 1992) is the real name of the person known on social networks as Schr\u00f6dinger&#8217;s Cat. This alias refers to a paradox devised in 1935 by the Austrian-Irish physicist Erwin Schr\u00f6dinger, to argue theoretically with Albert Einstein. According to his paradox, a hypothetical cat, enclosed in a closed steel chamber, can be simultaneously alive and dead, known as quantum superposition, and is linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur. The explanation is very long and complex, but that is precisely what Roc\u00edo is dedicated to: spreading science, through her YouTube and Twitch channels, in a way that is understandable to ordinary mortals. She&#8217;s been doing it for five years\u2026 and she&#8217;s doing very well!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-instagram wp-block-embed-instagram\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"sbi-embed-wrap\"><blockquote class=\"instagram-media sbi-embed\" data-instgrm-captioned data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CmCBKl5D7OI\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:640px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CmCBKl5D7OI\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; line-height:0; padding:0 0; text-align:center; text-decoration:none; width:100%;\" target=\"_blank\"> <div style=\" display: flex; 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/CmCBKl5D7OI\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\">A post shared by Roc\u00edo Vidal Menacho (@lagatadeschrodinger)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote><script async src=\"\/\/platform.instagram.com\/en_US\/embeds.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You are a journalist and publicist, but your YouTube channel is about popular science. Where did your interest in science come from?<\/strong><br>I studied journalism because I loved writing; as a teenager I had a blog where I commented on the news. Journalism invited me to be able to talk about whatever I wanted and whatever I liked, at least in my head. I wanted to specialise in investigative journalism and I realised that science is something very important and we don&#8217;t know about it, so I said to myself that I was going to specialise in science communication. I did a master&#8217;s degree and I&#8217;m still doing it today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You started the YouTube channel almost five years ago. Was it a way out because you couldn&#8217;t find a job?<\/strong><br>I was working on a science exhibition and when it closed I knew I wanted to do my own project. What is true is that I saw the YouTube channel as a calling card.<br>I saw it as a letter of introduction to scientific companies or media that could hire me. I started a YouTube channel because people I admired were doing it and I was lucky that I did well and got a lot of hits. At that point I saw that it could be not a means to get a job, but a job in itself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>You now have more than 600,000 subscribers to your channel. What exactly does this job entail?<\/strong><br>YouTube is a window of opportunity. At the end of the day, I am a journalist and I also give talks and conferences, present events or collaborate. What YouTube and social networks do is get you seen, and that means a lot of opportunities for collaboration. It is true that I am one of the few privileged ones who can make a living from something, a priori, so specialised. A fashion or make-up youtuber can promote many products, can dress for brands and it seems more obvious that she can make a living from it and get paid for it. But you can make a living from something as specialised as science and popularisation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Do you feel supported by scientists and researchers?<\/strong><br>Yes, because they are my sources. In my channel, although I touch on conspiracies, UFOs, denialism or terraplanism, I always do it from a sceptical approach, always open to listening. Perhaps many traditional scientists don&#8217;t understand this entertaining, down-to-earth way of communicating, but I believe that what really matters is that people get to see the content, see it and like it. 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font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/COh89S4jgti\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\">A post shared by Roc\u00edo Vidal Menacho (@lagatadeschrodinger)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote><script async src=\"\/\/platform.instagram.com\/en_US\/embeds.js\"><\/script><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Are the topics you talk about the ones that interest you or do you address them because they attract the most followers?<\/strong><br>A mixture, I would say. It&#8217;s mainly what I like to talk about. But it&#8217;s true that I started the channel as a more &#8216;white&#8217; populariser, so to speak, more about content and classic science popularisation. But then I realised that I really liked to dismantle beliefs and hoaxes, to understand how conspiracy theories worked. But if the question is whether I&#8217;ve ever talked about something I didn&#8217;t feel like talking about\u2026 If that were the case, I would end up leaving the channel, because the main thing is that you feel it and you live it. That&#8217;s what people get the most out of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I&#8217;ve seen your videos about organic food, but not, for example, about biotechnology applied to the creation of meat-like food from stem cells\u2026<\/strong><br>No, it&#8217;s not a subject I&#8217;ve touched on yet, but I love it. I think it&#8217;s a wonderful idea, but we need to see more results.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Will it be possible to mass-market lab-grown meat?<\/strong><br>I don&#8217;t know yet. At the moment I&#8217;m not seeing much progress towards mass commercialisation, which is the key in the end. It&#8217;s all very well to have succeeded, but if each piece of artificial meat costs 5,000 euros, it will never have a real impact on society. But every breakthrough starts with being very expensive and then it gets commercialised. For me that would be wonderful news. I am not an absolute vegetarian: I sometimes eat fish. But if I have stopped eating meat, it is not because I don&#8217;t like it, but for ethical reasons. So, if meat is produced in a laboratory, without animal suffering behind it\u2026 luxury! 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